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	Well.. I've often thought of putting up a 'Personal/Help Wanted' ad on the lists.. ;)		Well.. I've often thought of putting up a 'Personal/Help Wanted' ad on the lists.. ;)
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	Couple of things to think about from Dame Tamlyn.		Couple of things to think about from Dame Tamlyn.
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	There aren't enough active Laurels in the kingdom to take on many more		There aren't enough active Laurels in the kingdom to take on many more

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	My laurel [Master Hector of the Black Height, Ealdormere] states that a peerage is the "crown's stamp of approval on an		My laurel Master Hector of the Black Height, Ealdormere states that a peerage is the "crown's stamp of approval on an
	individual taking on dependants for the purpose of guidance, mentorship and		individual taking on dependants for the purpose of guidance, mentorship and
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	I am somebody's protege. Sometimes, that relationship is on the back burner		I am somebody's protege. Sometimes, that relationship is on the back burner

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	Members of the [[Order of Defense]] ~~do not yet have a defined name for their associates, but in they East, they are called "Provosts"~~.		Members of the [[Order of Defense]] take [[Provost\|provosts]].

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An '''associate''' is a [[student]] who is in a formal squire, apprentice or protégé relationship with a [[peer]], usually with an exchange of [[fealty]].

Members of the [[Order of Chivalry]] take [[squire|squires]].

Members of the [[Order of the Laurel]] take [[apprentice|apprentices]].

Members of the [[Order of the Pelican]] take [[protégé|protégés]].

Members of the [[Order of Defense]] do not yet have a defined name for their associates, but in they East, they are called "Provosts".

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Being a fealty relationship, this involves some kind of contract,
devised and agreed on by the two concerned parties. This often takes the
form of the associate agreeing to take on whatever tasks his/her
master/mistress sets before him or her, and the master/mistress pledging
mentoring, sharing of knowledge and skills, and welcoming that associate
as one of his or her family.

Unlike associates, who may be made only by Peers, anyone, regardless of
personal rank, may take students.

Arlys
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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], June 2006.)

[...] if you are in direct fealty to a Peer, that peer can swear
fealty to the Crown for both of you -- the fealty trickle-down effect.

The other facets may be a bit more subtle. A good part of a Peer's job is
to teach and guide their associates and give them lots of opportunities
to shine. This may or may not exist in a student relationship. Both Peers
and teachers like challenges, and to challenge themselves as well as
those they work with.

Fealty contracts can be made; they can also be broken by mutual agreement
to dissolve the relationship, or by one person not fulfilling their end
of the contract. It's important to note that contracts are reciprocal.
Contracts may also have time limits. In a fealty contract with me, you
become an important part of my family or household--you do your best
regarding your interests, you accept such tasks as are set before you as
are reasonable for you, and you uphold the honor of us both. For my part,
I challenge you, present you with opportunities to show your knowledge
and skills and invite others to partake of them, and uphold the honor of
us both. If you need protection, I am your shield; if you muck up, I
expect others to tell me FIRST so we can discuss and resolve the issue at
hand. (Woe betide the person who picks on my brother--that's MY job! ;) )

Arlys
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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], June 2006.)

My laurel [Master Hector of the Black Height, Ealdormere] states that a peerage is the "crown's stamp of approval on an
individual taking on dependants for the purpose of guidance, mentorship and
mutual growth". Having a dependant is part of the job description of peers,
and being a dependant gives that person the knowledge that there is
someone they are accountable to and who is in their corner when the chips
are down.

Essentially, any of the bestowed peerages are expected to take dependants
and teach them. The [[Sumptuary Laws|coloured belts]] worn by Peers’ dependants signify bonds
between Peers and non-Peers.

I would not define any of the three dependants any differently, except in
the flavour of peer they are attached to. They are all engaged in a formal
mentorship relationship to some degree or another. That relationship is as
unique as the individuals in it, but the formality of the relationship is
recognized and respected by the Crown and the other members of the peerage.

Morrigan<br>
Avacal

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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], Feb 2006.)

I am somebody's protege. Sometimes, that relationship is on the back burner
because we are not romantic (though we are affectionate) and he lives a
bazillion miles away; if he suddenly said that he will never return to the
SCA, we would still be friends. And yes, the strength of our fealty is
equally matched by our friendship.

Sometimes that relationship is on the forefront--usually, when he wants me
to do something. Sometimes we have to talk our way through it, and
sometimes life gets in the way and I can't do what he wants, and sometimes
he has to invoke his feudal rights to remind me that I *can* do whatever is
needful. (That doesn't happen very often...) He is not omniscient, but he
does care about my growth and learning experiences.

When we gave each other our oaths before witnesses, we did so as equals, for
we have (even now!) much to learn and teach each other, and others.

When I do something *excellently well,* it reflects on him. Likewise, when
he does something fabulous, I get to be proud of him.

He is the peer. Lucky him--he gets to advise the Crown, advise his peers,
and attend meetings.

I am the peer-in-training. Lucky him--he gets to hear what *I* think the
Crown should be doing. In my capacity as protege, I am expected to think
and advise and listen and learn from my liege lord--he has to hear from me.
(And lucky me, I don't have any meetings...!)

While I could agree with you that there are some distinctly un-peerlike
behaviors occuring among the peerages, I am also the first to say that I
can't fix *it*.

Instead, I can point to myself, to my family, and even my peer and work on
those behaviors that would enhance those around me. I'm not talking about
peer-like qualities (a misnomer, and worthy of another post entirely). I am
talking about becoming a better woman, a better mother, a better friend.
This is well within my sphere of influence. I can teach, I can share, I can
do.

I'm not out to fix the world. I'm not even out to repair the kingdom. I
can leave a place better than I found it--even if it's picking up cigarette
butts off the ground. Or leaving a room.

[...]

With respect to you all, I remain

Laurin,
Protege to Steffano

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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], June 2006.)

What's an apprentice? What's a protege'? What's a squire?

How are they different from a student? From a man at arms? From that young
gentleman who's always there when you desperately need help setting up the
lists?

Please remember that this isn't the WORD FROM ON HIGH, this is the WORD
FROM CAIRBRE.

For simplicity's sake, I'm going to refer to proteges, squires and
apprentices as, "PSAs." (get over it, my other choice was, SAP and we all
know how that would have gone over... ;-} )

Is a PSA a student? Yep.

Is a student a PSA? Not necessarily.

The difference comes in the type of education being sought. Anyone who is
learning something from someone is a 'student.' That's one of those words
that's very hard to quibble about. You can use the word, "student", as a
proper noun and give them belts, baubles or important sounding titles, but
they will still be someone who's learning something from someone.

So what's a PSA then?

Glad you asked.

PSAs are students studying to become Peers. (ARGH!!! I can hear the
screams now...)

How many of you have heard something to the effect, "If someone is trying
to become a Laurel, they don't deserve to become one." Answer honestly. Go
ahead, the rest of us will wait.

A lot of us have heard that. A lot of us have heard that the earth was
flat too. They're both about as valid.

Very few people have any problems when someone decides they want to become
a Knight. Yet there's this bizarre pseudo-Victorian morality surrounding
the Pelicans and Laurels that makes people believe it's somehow impure or
unclean to deliberately strive to enter one of these orders. As I've said
before, "get over it."

The nature of the specific relationships between Peers and their PSAs are
as varied as the people involved. Some swear to keep the Knight's armor
clean and always follow him into battle. Other's promise to spend hours at
the bench cutting glass and making windows even to the extent of skipping
events if necessary. Still others promise to autocrat a zillion events and
hold an equal number of offices. The specifics of the oaths that define the
relationships aren't particularly important to anyone other than the Peer
and their prospective PSA. There can be fealties and homages, homages
without fealties, fealties without homages, simple business contracts (very
popular in period I might add, none of the silly 'My man is my Liege's man'
for those glassworks in Venice) Figure out what makes the two of you happy
and make that the covenant that binds one to teaching the other to become a
Peer.

What is important is the idea that these prospective PSAs are asking
someone in a specific position to teach the PSA everything needed to become
a peer to the Peer. More importantly, a peer to the Peerage.

Think about this again, a PSA is asking someone to teach them to become a
Peer of the Society for Creative Anachronism.

They are asking someone to teach them not only the specific skills germane
to the Peerage in question but to teach them all of the other things that
make up being a Peer. They're asking them to teach Peer Like Qualities.
They're asking to be taught to play enough Chess to show some familiarity
with period gaming and to do a Pavane if that's what the Queen asks for.
The difference in the curriculum is simple; PSAs are asking to take the
course work for the skills as well as the additional major in, "Peer Like
Qualities." Simple, no?

In period, the concepts of PSAism (PSAitude? PSAiferousness?) had very
little to do with how they're perceived in the modern SCA. Depending on
when and where in period, being a Squire might well be the highest station
someone could ever hope to attain. In other places, being a Knight wasn't
much to talk about because of all of the Lords and Ladies wandering around
the Court. (I'm using 'Knight' as a generic period term for our Peerage
orders)

An apprentice might well be literally sold into the household of a skilled
artisan and spend their entire life knowing they will never be a 'peer' of
the master. Depending on who the master had as their patron or sponsor,
that apprentice may well never even be allowed to have credit for works
that surpassed the master's greatest.

Why does someone want to become a PSA?

Nobody needs to be a squire to learn to fight. Nobody needs to be a Knight
to be a good fighter. Anybody who says you have to be a Knight to be the
best fighter ever is simply wrong. The same holds true for artisans and
craftsmen and the Laurels and the servants in regards to the Pelicans.

Nobody has to be a Knight to be King. Nobody has to be a Pelican to be the
Kingdom Seneschal. Nobody has to be a Laurel to be the Kingdom Minister of
Arts & Sciences. Anybody who tells you otherwise is desperately
misinformed.

A reasonable modern world analogy would be a Doctoral Candidate. They're
working to enter the highest realms of academia. They're not just learning
how to be a good engineer or a decent cosmologist, they're looking for a
mentor who can show them how to do fundamental research and then teach it
to the rest of the world.

Those of you who are martial artists, think about that person with their
3rd or 4th Dan who are spending their life's savings to go to Okinawa,
Korea, China or where ever to study with the Soke. They're learning to
become the person who will carry the tradition on to the next generation of
students. Not just the techniques, everyone with a Dan rank is a competent
technician, that's the very essence of 1st Dan. They're trying to learn the
things that allow the tradition to carry on, not just how to throw a punch
or how to drop your center of gravity during a leg sweep.

The advantage the SCA has is that you don't have to have your Master's
degree or your 3rd or 4th degree black belt to hook up with someone to
teach you to build the future of the society. You have to have the desire,
skill and interpersonal skills to find a teacher willing to pass on more
than just how to bevel a piece of glass so the lead sticks properly.

There's nothing wrong with being a student. There's nothing inherently
better with being a Peer. You can be both at once.
Within the ethos of our
modern SCA, being a PSA is more of a calling than an educational
experience.

As always, YMMV

Cairbre

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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], Feb 2006.)

I am curious about something. I was apprenticed / proteged [...]

But I did not seek them out. They approached me and said they felt I had
reached a level which would benefit from direct tutelage. I was rather
surprised they thought so, and I was honored they sought me out.

I have always assumed this was the way it was done everywhere. They choose
you and it would simply never have occurred to me to seek them out and ask
to be taken on as an apprentice or protege.

Is that an accepted practice? Does the apprentice/protege usually
initiate the conversation here? I know the squires do it all the time,
but that is somehow quite different to my mind.

Very curious to know,

Arnora

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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], Feb 2006.)

I think it depends on the Laurel/Pelican. I know one Laurel who WILL NOT
ask. I think at this point, that rule has so firmly reached the status of
unshakeable law that she feels she can no longer make an exception. It has
become slightly absurd even, because when she wanted one of my friends as an
apprentice, and my friend wasn't catching on to the broad hints, the Laurel
in question eventually sent over a mutual friend to TELL my friend to ask,
if she was at all interested in being this laurel's appentice.

I also know one or two laurels who, while not offended by being asked,
prefer to do the approaching, because they can take the potential rejection
of being turned down better than they can deal with having to disappoint
someone who looks up to them enough to ask, but that they don't feel is
quite the right fit for that kind of relationship, for whatever reason.

My laurel just dropped really really REALLY big hints during a conversation
about my ceremony for joining her household, until I finally looked at her
askance, and asked her if she wanted me to ask or was she just trying to see
if I was interested.

Speaking of advice...

''what were/would you looking for from the relationship? What do/did you want and what does/did your Peer want?''

Again, depends, in this case very much on the person who wants to be an
apprentice/protege.

Are you very independent and self-directed, but get distracted and don't
always finish what you start? You may just need someone to guide you in the
right direction when you're lost, and boot you in the butt occasionally when
you wander off on some tangent.

Are you scattered and overwhelmed by choices? You may need someone to
layout a path for you, or help you lay out one; someone to help you narrow
down your choices to something manageable.

Are you pretty much sure of exactly where you want to go and how to get
there, and disciplined enough to do it? You may not need a Laurel/Pelican
at all. And the rest of us will look at you with envy and a sneaking sense
of fear. ;) ...but you probably just need someone to cheer you on when
things go well, cheer you up when they don't and occasionally point out
things you may have missed, or should watch out for.

Do you want it to be a strictly mentor/student relationship? Or also
friendship? Just in the SCA, or also mundanely?

Personally, I mostly fall in the first category of people-types. I have
never had difficulty finding something to do that interests me, and am more
than capable of going out and doing it without prompting. In fact, I really
ought to remember to actually tell my Laurel what I'm up to more often.
Which I'll probably have to do now, since I think she's on this list. :)

My biggest problem is that I'm easily bored and distracted and get excited
by too many things, I'm not really scattered but my SCA to-do list is
currently about 40-50 projects long, ranging from things that just need few
final adjustments and finishing, to passing ideas I really want to do but
haven't the time for right now. In fact, my list is so long occasionally I
find a project I completely forgot I was even working on!

What I was looking for was someone who would cheer me on when I did stuff,
but who I could trust to give me an honest opinion on the results. Someone
who would remind me of projects I should finish sooner rather than later
(when I'm not in school and putting all SCA stuff on hold anyway), make
suggestions of projects she thinks I could do, that I may not have thought
of, or thought might be beyond me and suggest solutions or suggest where I
might find them when I get stuck on something.

I also wanted it to be a two-way relationship. I was looking for someone who
wasn't just a mentor who helped me along in my chosen endeavors, but someone
who was also a friend. Someone who was willing to be actively involved in
my projects, and sometimes asked me to be involved in theirs.

I even got something I didn't know I was also looking for; someone who,
besides being my mentor and friend in the SCA, was also a friend who
wouldn't mind me sitting at her kitchen table and kvetching about
man-troubles, or describing school projects so excitedly that normal people
can't listen fast enough to hear, and she actually understands what I'm
talking about. Because you can never have too many of those.

This is such a great question, because trying to explain something to
someone else helps clarify it in your own head! Thank you!

[[YIS]]<br>
[[Brighid Anraith]]

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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], Mar 2006.)

Well.. I've often thought of putting up a 'Personal/Help Wanted' ad on the lists.. ;)

Something along the lines of;

Creative Lady of strong Personality seeking Laurel to act as Mentor in
the realm of Costume.
* May lead to a more formal relationship.
* Said Laurel needs be flexible of mind, capable of giving constructive
criticism and a well placed boot to the butt when procastinative
tendencies take hold.
* The Laurel in question ideally will be a fibre addict, have an interest
in many periods, and have a high tollerence for puns and other forms of
wittisisms.
* The Laurel should live near Lions Gate or be willing to travel within
reason for purpose of regular meetings.

Applicants may reply to this address offlist.

:)

Caraine

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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], Mar 2006.)

Well not speaking as a Laurel or Pelican, but as one of those other peers, I
would say I've seen it done both ways.

Me personally? I consider it the first test of any squire I would consider.
If they don't have the Caljones to come up and open discussions with me on
the subject, then they probably wouldn't do well as my squire. I cut a wide
swath sometimes and being associated with me means you are not going to be
able to skate by as a wallflower. ;-)

As uncomfortable as this sounds, it's very much like dating. (Which, BTW, one
should NEVER do. I've never once seen a situation where dating a student or
squiring your wife turned out well).

But in a non-romantic way, you are forming a long term bond that is in all
other ways very much like dating/marriage.

There really is no better analogy I can think of.

In Service,<br>
Sir Daniel

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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], Mar 2006.)

Couple of things to think about from Dame Tamlyn.

Laurels tend to keep an eye out at Artisans' Displays (Kingdom and local
level:-) and tend to gravitate towards those displays which are one of their
areas of interest or in which they may be interested in learning more about.

Apprenti don't necessarily have the same exact interests as their Laurels -
when I contract to someone I "by the best means I can teach and instruct or
cause to be taught and instructed" of course a requirement I have of them is
that they "shall not haunt disreputable taverns, nor playhouses, nor gamble
such to cause loss and absent myself thereby from my mistress' service".-}

I've approached someone who originally was most strongly interested in
scribal matters, but who is now more interested in archery... I won't know
as much as him, but I'll certainly learn along the way and put him in
contact with those he can learn from when we enter into contract.

It is far more important from the personal perspective that the relationship
be with someone you can get along with and who can get along with you...
Take an opportunity or several to talk with a Laurel who may be interested
in what you're interested in... If nothing else it will make them easier to
approach if you do decide you want to ask them if they would enter into a
Laurel-Apprentice relationship, though several Laurels I know (including
myself) will start with "student" relationships to see if they will work out
(for a variety of reasons:-} before upgrading to an apprentice relationship.

I've found that usually the reason a Laurel doesn't take on such
relationships is that 1) they are getting used to being a Laurel - probably
shouldn't ask for a relationship in their first year until they get their
feet under them, 2) they may feel that they can't adequately fulfill your
specific needs, 3) they already have enough relationships in the works that
they are unsure they can take anymore on without current relationships
suffering, and 4) they have a set manner in which they take on apprentices
or types of apprentices - this is harder to figure out and works along the
lines of deciding whether you should be asking them or whether they will be
asking you. Most people don't do well with cold calls so I would recommend
finding out all you can about a particular Peer before approaching them -
sort of like finding out what you can about a business you are interested in
working for BEFORE you interview:-}.

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(A "keeper" posting from the [[Steps of the Cathedral|Steps]], Mar 2006.)

There aren't enough active Laurels in the kingdom to take on many more
apprentices than are already in service. There's a limit to how many of them
any Laurel can handle at a time and do a good job of it, so my Laurel
friends tell me. And I believe them.

It's not only time-consuming, it's a relationship wherein the peer and the
student have to get along well for it to be a productive use of time and
effort. That means knowing each other well before undertaking the
relationship in the first place. And that creates its own limits above and
beyond the Laurel's current number of apprentices.

Sister Guineth

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	in question eventually sent over a mutual friend to TELL my friend to ask,		in question eventually sent over a mutual friend to TELL my friend to ask,
	if she was at all interested in being this laurel's ~~appentice~~.		if she was at all interested in being this laurel's apprentice.

	I also know one or two laurels who, while not offended by being asked,		I also know one or two laurels who, while not offended by being asked,
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	there, and disciplined enough to do it? You may not need a Laurel/Pelican		there, and disciplined enough to do it? You may not need a Laurel/Pelican
	at all. And the rest of us will look at you with envy and a sneaking sense		at all. And the rest of us will look at you with envy and a sneaking sense
	of fear. ;) ...but you probably just need someone to cheer you on when		of fear. ;) ...but you probably just need someone to cheer you on when
	things go well, cheer you up when they don't and occasionally point out		things go well, cheer you up when they don't and occasionally point out
	things you may have missed, or should watch out for.		things you may have missed, or should watch out for.
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	[[YIS]]<br>		[[YIS]]<br>
	[[Brighid Anraith]]		[[Brígiða Vadesbana\|Brighid Anraith]]

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